Ostrolenk speaks with Heather Hurlburt, director of New Models of Policy Change, Political Reform Project at New America. This relatively new think tank works to move innovative ideas into the policy debate. Hurlburt discusses her research into “transpartisan” approaches — building coalitions across party lines that are built on shared interests rather than centrist compromises — to criminal justice reform, Pentagon budget reform and climate change. She also elaborates on the disconnect between ideas and politics, and how confidence in one’s own beliefs, and an open mind to others, can help bridge the gap. Hurlburt concludes by providing advice on how to participate in the current system, and continue to bring new ideas, without getting caught in the current orthodoxy.